Re: RUMPUS IN THE HAREM
Posted 2008-11-09 00:03:04 by The 4th Stooge
Well, Moe and Larry were certainly better people than I could've been. Contract or no, let a fella get some damn grieving time! The worst parts of these "Fake Shemps", was, as others have mentioned, the overuse of Shemp's name. Okay, the audience saw that Shemp is in the credits, so give them a little credit and stop repeating his name so many times.I don't know where I read it, but I think I remember Jules White mentioning that Columbia didn't pay all that much attention to the shorts department, which meant that White could put out shorts like this in a matter of hours, and Columbia would sell (rent?) them to the theatres. Nice work if you can get it. Even worse than Palma/Shemp is the new guard. The guy was much younger, much smaller, and didn't even act as hysterically angry as the first one. This is a definite one-poker.
Reviewer's Rating:
(2)
Re: RUMPUS IN THE HAREM
Posted 2007-07-08 10:09:31 by FourthThird
Edited 2007-07-21 14:41:55 by FourthThird
Ah, yes, the Shempless Shemp shorts... as if the previous shorts that heavily recycled old footage weren't bad enough. Of course, back when people only saw these in the theater and couldn't re-watch and scrutinize them like we can now, the whole Palma stand-in thing probably succeeded in fooling a lot of viewers. I think it says something about the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of Palma's "Shemping", though, that its use sharply and consistently decreased over the course of the 4 shorts. Overall, I don't feel Palma deserves much credit OR blame for the whole thing.
What's really sad, though, is that said "Shemping" isn't even the worst thing about these shorts. The worst thing is the overuse of Shemp's name in the new footage, making the whole pretense all the more obvious and unconvincing. Moe had to say stuff like "Where's that chowderhead Shemp?", when in the past he would have just said, "Where's that other chowderhead?" That had to have been excruciating for him.
And, as has been pointed out, the excuse for Shemp not being in the first scene (the note saying he went down to the restaurant early) is really lame. Anybody have any ideas as to how they could have handled that better?
-- Desmond Of The Outer Sanctorum (aka Teddy Hoosevelt)
Re: RUMPUS IN THE HAREM
Posted 2001-10-13 03:25:00 by curleyQ
Ok. First I have this video with another A D shemp remake(Scheming Schemers). Scheming wasn't as bad, this one has Joe Palma using his own voice to jump out the window, which is silly. They could of used a shemp voice track, like they did in other shots. Then in the original when they captured the diamond from the earl of schmo he stood in the fountain. What did he do in the remake.....nothing. Then you had the different gaurds also in the remake, and they used some of the audio footage at the end "I'll Kill You!!!" was the track voice. What happened to the original gaurd? Guess they were still under contract to finish the shorts. Great website any other stooge fans I want to hear from you. Only 1 1/2 pokes.
Re: RUMPUS IN THE HAREM
Posted 2001-06-14 04:42:00 by 1985
This is the first short where they have to use Joe Palma to stand in for Shemp.He died Tuesday night November 22,1955 from a heart attack and Moe and Larry still needed him so they hire Joe to stand in for him until they could replace him.On the first part of the Short when Shemp left Moe and Larry a note saying he was at the resterant is telling you Shemp isn't in the short and why the Hell did Joe yell out his real voice when they jumped out of the window?That didn't sound a damn thing like Shemp That sounded like a man screaming like a girl!!!!
Re: RUMPUS IN THE HAREM
Posted 2001-06-02 00:37:00 by Mike Holme
I thought this one was bad too, the new scenes were extremely weak and cheaply done, the new ending was ruined because Joe Palma had to speak his normal voice. The only plus is the chase scene which was just okay, and that the new footage is consistant, but that doesn't save this one from being a 1 poker!1 pokeMike HolmeEdited by - Mike Holme on 8/22/01 11:27:35 PMEdited by - Mike Holme on 10/21/2001 12:02:24 PM
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